Comments on: Gospel AND Community http://bensternke.com/2009/10/gospel-and-community/ field notes from the missional church planting frontier Sat, 31 Jul 2010 10:10:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ben Sternke http://bensternke.com/2009/10/gospel-and-community/comment-page-1/#comment-2086 Ben Sternke Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:41:52 +0000 http://bensternke.com/?p=1622#comment-2086 Brian, I think if you just start practicing, you're part of it! Brian, I think if you just start practicing, you’re part of it!

]]> By: Ben Sternke http://bensternke.com/2009/10/gospel-and-community/comment-page-1/#comment-2085 Ben Sternke Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:40:59 +0000 http://bensternke.com/?p=1622#comment-2085 I agree, JR. I think, for example, all the recent talk about "third ways" is an attempt to correct the reductionism that has resulted in false dichotomies. But because people think in terms of those dichotomies, I think we need to speak in those terms as well, at least initially when we explain things to people. So I get you: both/and still separates the two - and I know gospel and community ARE intertwined theologically, but the both/and, "third way" language is helpful for people who are just beginning to understand there is no dichotomy. I agree, JR. I think, for example, all the recent talk about “third ways” is an attempt to correct the reductionism that has resulted in false dichotomies. But because people think in terms of those dichotomies, I think we need to speak in those terms as well, at least initially when we explain things to people.

So I get you: both/and still separates the two – and I know gospel and community ARE intertwined theologically, but the both/and, “third way” language is helpful for people who are just beginning to understand there is no dichotomy.

]]> By: Brian http://bensternke.com/2009/10/gospel-and-community/comment-page-1/#comment-2083 Brian Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:15:45 +0000 http://bensternke.com/?p=1622#comment-2083 I totally want to be part of the "Both/And" Movement! Is there such a thing??? I totally want to be part of the “Both/And” Movement! Is there such a thing???

]]> By: JR Rozko http://bensternke.com/2009/10/gospel-and-community/comment-page-1/#comment-2081 JR Rozko Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:54:59 +0000 http://bensternke.com/?p=1622#comment-2081 Sounds like the sort of dichotomy we Westerners feel responsible to try and hold together because we have embraced both a reductionistic gospel and an unbiblical notion of community. To say we need churches which emphasize both gospel AND community seems to imply that they are not intertwined. Gerhard Lohfink, in his book, <a href="http://www.betterworldbooks.com/Jesus-and-Community-id-0800618025.aspx" <i>Jesus and Community</i></a> casts a vision of biblical community that is inextricably part of God's gospel, dong away with any "AND." Wish I could be part of the discussions to be hearing more. Sounds like the sort of dichotomy we Westerners feel responsible to try and hold together because we have embraced both a reductionistic gospel and an unbiblical notion of community. To say we need churches which emphasize both gospel AND community seems to imply that they are not intertwined. Gerhard Lohfink, in his book, <a href="http://www.betterworldbooks.com/Jesus-and-Community-id-0800618025.aspx" Jesus and Community casts a vision of biblical community that is inextricably part of God’s gospel, dong away with any “AND.” Wish I could be part of the discussions to be hearing more.

]]> By: Naomi Lippett http://bensternke.com/2009/10/gospel-and-community/comment-page-1/#comment-2068 Naomi Lippett Thu, 15 Oct 2009 06:02:11 +0000 http://bensternke.com/?p=1622#comment-2068 Awww man . . . there you go again . .. provoking and inspiring and pushing the church to do a body check! Thanks for posting the stream and hope you have a rich time away friend! Awww man . . . there you go again . .. provoking and inspiring and pushing the church to do a body check! Thanks for posting the stream and hope you have a rich time away friend!

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