http://bensternke.com/2007/01/liturgical-theology-10-elements-of-a-liturgy/ field notes from the missional church planting frontier Mon, 06 Sep 2010 01:04:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 http://bensternke.com/2007/01/liturgical-theology-10-elements-of-a-liturgy/comment-page-1/#comment-593 Benjamin Sternke Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:43:52 +0000 http://bensternke.com/?p=290#comment-593 I think you're right that some of the contemporary "liturgical" elements are more subtle. When I train worship leaders, I call it a "flow", and it's really the same concept as the flow and drama of a liturgy. I think you’re right that some of the contemporary “liturgical” elements are more subtle. When I train worship leaders, I call it a “flow”, and it’s really the same concept as the flow and drama of a liturgy.

]]> http://bensternke.com/2007/01/liturgical-theology-10-elements-of-a-liturgy/comment-page-1/#comment-592 Nathan Kipfer Sun, 07 Jan 2007 14:18:28 +0000 http://bensternke.com/?p=290#comment-592 A couple quick thoughts. First the extended outline was more detailed that I expected when I opened it, and some things stuck out to me. It's seems that many of those elements show up here and there in our "contemporary liturgy." However, I think it gets buried a little bit in the midst of song and reference. I've heard the critique of more traditional liturgy that, for example, reciting the Lords Prayer every week just becomes something that is recited, and not thought about in the midst of every-Sunday-routine. (Which I think can happen also with "contempory song format.") It seems that even though there will be a reference to the Lord's Prayer in a song we sing, or a phrase of it in the sermon, it's easily not noticed, even though the it is "there" in our contempory liturgy. So, this is just my knee jerk reaction here: to encourage flow of service we don't discard or disregard the "not so obvious elements" of contempory liturgy, but it's important to pull out the blatant reciting/ acting out of the "more traditional liturgy" in services also. A couple quick thoughts. First the extended outline was more detailed that I expected when I opened it, and some things stuck out to me.
It’s seems that many of those elements show up here and there in our “contemporary liturgy.” However, I think it gets buried a little bit in the midst of song and reference. I’ve heard the critique of more traditional liturgy that, for example, reciting the Lords Prayer every week just becomes something that is recited, and not thought about in the midst of every-Sunday-routine. (Which I think can happen also with “contempory song format.”) It seems that even though there will be a reference to the Lord’s Prayer in a song we sing, or a phrase of it in the sermon, it’s easily not noticed, even though the it is “there” in our contempory liturgy. So, this is just my knee jerk reaction here: to encourage flow of service we don’t discard or disregard the “not so obvious elements” of contempory liturgy, but it’s important to pull out the blatant reciting/ acting out of the “more traditional liturgy” in services also.

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